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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 12/26/2006 8:44:09 PM   
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I just got the Platinum 600 for X-mas and have a question that isn't on the owner's manual (imagine that). Should I leave it plugged in or only plug it in during use? I'm really not sure. By the way mine was plugged in for 20 minutes while I played with it and the lbs. changed to 10 during this time. Sign of things to come??? I sure hope not.....

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 12/27/2006 9:11:12 AM   
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I've had my weider 600 for about 2 years I've replaced the mechanisim twice going on my third time. Fortunately I bought the extended 10 year warranty at Sears. I was told by the tech at Sears that these units cost $900 a pop. Less Service calls of $60 ea. this thing is costing somebody $2520 on a 700$ machine so far.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 12/28/2006 1:38:36 PM   
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I just purchased the Weider Platinum. It arrived 2 days ago. It was not bad assembling, took about 7 hours with 3 of us. It worked fine. THe next day I went to work out on it and the console went haywire. It kept going back to 10. Now it won't even try to adjust resistance. It's stuck. I can't get through on the WEIDER service line and they haven't called back within 24 hours as they promised. I'm thinking very seriously of sending it back and buying something else!

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 1/1/2007 9:12:54 AM   
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I had the same problem. I contacted Icon. They sent a repair tech. He said that a common problem was that the wiring harness would get pinched, nicked or cut. He installed new wire and re-routed it so this would not happen again. Everything works great now.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 1/8/2007 8:30:53 PM   
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I THINK THAT THE DESIGN OF THE COMPUTER ON THE PLATINUM 600 IS FLAWED, I CHECKED THE WIRING ON MINE ALL OF THE WIRES ARE INTACT , THE THING STILL GOES TO 10 . BAD DESIGN

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 1/8/2007 8:49:07 PM   
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MINE GOES TO 10 ALSO WHEN I FIRST GOT THE 600 I BRAGGED ON IT , WHAT I DO IS UNPLUG IT FOR A COUPLE OF SECONDS PLUG IT BACK IN IT GOES BACK TO THE TRUE RESISTANCE TRY IT OUT AND PLEASE POST TO LET ME KNOW IF IT WORKS FOR YOU. DELL

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 1/14/2007 11:03:22 AM   
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platinum 600. after reading this i couldn't resist putting in my 2 cents. i have had the same experience as everyone else. jumps to 10 or 240 while using it. they sent me the computer part twice and that did not fix it. they sent a guy out to replace lower wire harness and then it worked ok for about a month but went back to the same problem. now the motor won't even turn eventhough i verify with electrical tester that it is getting power. i have had the unit for a year and a half. the warranty says 1 year for labor but 5 years for parts. i am pretty good at taking stuff apart and fixing it so i am going to call them tomorrow and see if they will send me replacement parts for all the electrical. i would like to figure out a way to put on a hand crank to adjust the tension. anyway i feel better seeing that i am not the only one. misery loves company.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 1/30/2007 7:26:26 AM   
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It has nothing to do with putting the machine together. I had my paltinum crossbar for less than a month and the wiring harness failed. After many calls and emails; a service person replaced the wiring harness and it failed again just after 2 weeks I just didn't have the patience to got through the awful customer service ordeal until we decided to try and sell it. I finall got a call back after 3 weeks of emails and phone calls and confirmed with the customer service person that there was a problem with the mech frame and she said she would send a mech frame out, I got a wiring harness. I'm trying to repair the harness and what an engineering nightmare. At least I'll take the time to wire it in such a manner that it won't (hopefully) get caught in the moving parts. You may have purchased your unit recently and perhaps they made some improvents to the electrical components, congratulations, but the rest of us suckers who bought directly from Icon are stuck with a large lemon. I hope my efforts to fix the wiring harness are a success because I really don't feel great passing this problem off to someone else, but as Weider and Icon fitness company slogan should be , "Buyer Beware."

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 2/8/2007 3:13:43 AM   
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Bought my Weider Platinum in October of 2004, and since then I have opened it up over 10 times! I am to a point now where I dont even put in the screws back, but just attach the cover in such a way where I can just pop it back out without any screwdriver. I have had many problems with it, including the one where the readings would get all messed up or the mech. wont move to adjust the weight. But all of this has been singled down to one cause- nicked or cut wires around the upper/lower limit switches. I have always fixed it on my own, but now I am at a point where I just gave up! So for about 2 weeks now its been sitting there all opened up, and I dont do anything about it because the ratio of fixing time to working out time is about 3:1. So for every 3 hours I spend fixing it, I get about an hour worth of real workout time! I dont think anybody would buy it in a garage sale or anything either, so I am thinking of designing a power motor with forward and reverse switches to rotate the resistance controller in order to bring it to the desired resistance. The only drawback would be that I wont be able to see the weight in numbers unless I fix it one more time and adjust the weight and mark the numbers at the back with the numbers on the console. But oh well, numbers wont matter- its the resistance I need. Oh and both of those ideas were from folks reviews prior to this! Thanks fellas. But overall, I think the engineers at Weider were probably high school dropouts who just happened to come up with a money making scheme like this. And suckers like us fell for it too!! I would not recommend this machine to anybody! I was better off lifting locomotive wheels! Seriously!

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 3/8/2007 3:12:53 PM   
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Has anyone experienced the cables loosening up and is there a way to adjust them? The resistance seems fine, but when the machine tries to retract the cables, it's really slow and sometimes the cables actually come off the pulleys in the back.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 3/9/2007 8:13:01 PM   
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After breaking for the 7th time , I have given up. I loved working out on this machine, but I took it apart and put it out in the trash. I bought a new bench and unpacked my free weights from the back room.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 4/21/2007 1:13:25 PM   
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I have repeatedly tried to have my platinum crossbow fixed. It sticks at one weight and will not adjust. Sears has been not unlike an HMO when you need open heart surgery. That is I cannot get through to someone who can actually give me an answer. I will never buy another SEARS product again. I was dooped!

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 6/20/2007 6:10:19 PM   
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Add another guy to the list with problems with the motor/mech assembly.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 7/11/2007 8:18:28 PM   
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After 2 months of use, resistance locked up at 135lb. When I try to adjust it, I get massage to relise handles and then adjust resistance. Did enyone have the same problem??

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 9/14/2007 1:06:16 PM   
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DO NOT BUY THIS CRAPPY MACHINE!!! I PURCHASED MY PLATINUM 800 and after 2 months of having it I finally got up my lazy but to use it. About a week after, THE MACHINE CRAPPED OUT ON ME...Since then Ive had 4-5 new Control Panels sent to me, 2-3 upper AND lower wiring harnesses, A NEW MOTOR, A COMPLETELY NEW LOWER MECH ASSEMBLY, and again a LOWER WIRING HARNESS!!! They will send a tech out but only after theyve sent out about 3 machines worth of parts....Does not make any sense at all given that replacing the complete unit would be cheaper for them!!! DO NOT BUY THIS PRODUCT UNLESS YOU WANT TO FEEL FRUSTRATED OUT OF SHAPE AND RIPPED OFF!!!

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 10/9/2007 9:06:08 AM   
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Trouble Shooting the Weider Crossbow Platnium
MODEL: WESY78730

I would like to start off with the lower wire harness which seems to be most of the problems with this machine and what color wire goes where:

BLACK GROUND WIRE: first connects to the lowest weight limit switch located in the hinge part of the pivot arm or top of the arm, it then multiples down to the highest weight limit switch located at the other end of the pivot arm near the motor, then the black ground wire multiples to a terminal that connects to the resistance sensor located at the end of the pivot arm.

ORANGE WIRE: This is the wire that causes the most trouble it connects to the lowest weight limit switch located in the hinge part of the pivot arm or top of the arm.

WHITE WIRE: Connects to the highest weight limit switch located at the other end of the pivot arm near the motor.

BLUE AND YELLOW WIRES: Connect to the motor at the end or bottom of the pivot arm.

PURPLE WIRE: Connects to a terminal that connects to the resistance sensor located at the end of the pivot arm.

SYMPTOM AND POSSIBLE FIXES:

SYMPTOM: The weight will no longer ajust down to a lighter weight.

FIX: Check the Orange or BLACK wire leading to the low weight limit switch located inside of the hinge of the pivot arm. This will be on the right side of the machine looking from the back. The ORANGE wire may be cut, pinched or pulled out of the terminal as mine was. Splice a longer wire with another terminal on the end and reattach it to the switch.
You may need to remove the switch by running the motor by hand down to the lightest weight and then pulling the cable out and wrapping it around something and hooking it securely.
You will need a small philips head screw driver to get to the screws and a pair or neddle nose pliers to get the the nuts.
Make sure to unplug the machine.

SYMPTOM: The weight will not adjust to a heavier weight.

FIX: Check the WHITE or BLACK wire leading to the high weight limit switch located at the end of the pivot arm on the left side of the machine looking from the back. The wires may be cut,pinched or just worked loose from the terminal. Replace the wires or reconnect them to the switch.

SYMPTOM: When you try to adjust the weight you get something that says
“ Release the tension on the cables and set to desired weight”
And the weight readout jumps to 10, 100 or some other number.

FIX: Check the PURPLE or BLACK wire that connects to a terminal that goes to the tension sensor located at the end of the pivot arm or left side looking from the back of the machine. Both of these wires have been known just to fall out of the terminal.
The best fix for this is just to by pass the terminal and splice a wire from the PURPLE wire to the GRAY/BLACK wire and then splice another wire from the BLACK wire to the BLACK wire leading to the resistance sensor.

The best fix that lasts, is to do what I did and what others are doing and disconect the wires from the terminals that are going to the bottom or left side of the pivot arm to the motor, high weight limit switch and the tension sensor, cut the ties that hold them to the pivot arm and pull them out of the pivot hinge encloser that usually cuts or crimps these wires. You will then need to splice wires back to these wires in order to make them longer so that they can then be routed to the outside of the pivot arm hinge and away from the moving parts. Connect the wires back to the wires for the high weight limit switch,motor and sensor then wrap them good with tape a tie them back to the pivot arm using cable ties leaving enough slack for them to move freely outside of the pivot arm hinge and away from the moving parts. I also recomend bypassing the terminal that connects to the resistance sensor and connecting the PURPLE and BLACK wires directly going to the sensor. Now the only 2 wires that are inside of the pivot arm hinge are the ones that go to the Light weight limit switch which can not be avoided because that is where the switch is located.
Hope this helps because the machine is very good if it is working correctly.
It just had poor engineering when it came to the wiring.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 10/9/2007 9:31:59 AM   
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Trouble Shooting the Weider Crossbow Platnium
MODEL: WESY78730

I would like to start off with the lower wire harness which seems to be most of the problems with this machine and what color wire goes where:

BLACK GROUND WIRE: first connects to the lowest weight limit switch located in the hinge part of the pivot arm or top of the arm, it then multiples down to the highest weight limit switch located at the other end of the pivot arm near the motor, then the black ground wire multiples to a terminal that connects to the resistance sensor located at the end of the pivot arm.

ORANGE WIRE: This is the wire that causes the most trouble it connects to the lowest weight limit switch located in the hinge part of the pivot arm or top of the arm.

WHITE WIRE: Connects to the highest weight limit switch located at the other end of the pivot arm near the motor.

BLUE AND YELLOW WIRES: Connect to the motor at the end or bottom of the pivot arm.

PURPLE WIRE: Connects to a terminal that connects to the resistance sensor located at the end of the pivot arm.

SYMPTOM AND POSSIBLE FIXES:

SYMPTOM: The weight will no longer ajust down to a lighter weight.

FIX: Check the Orange or BLACK wire leading to the low weight limit switch located inside of the hinge of the pivot arm. This will be on the right side of the machine looking from the back. The ORANGE wire may be cut, pinched or pulled out of the terminal as mine was. Splice a longer wire with another terminal on the end and reattach it to the switch.
You may need to remove the switch by running the motor by hand down to the lightest weight and then pulling the cable out and wrapping it around something and hooking it securely.
You will need a small philips head screw driver to get to the screws and a pair or neddle nose pliers to get the the nuts.
Make sure to unplug the machine.

SYMPTOM: The weight will not adjust to a heavier weight.

FIX: Check the WHITE or BLACK wire leading to the high weight limit switch located at the end of the pivot arm on the left side of the machine looking from the back. The wires may be cut,pinched or just worked loose from the terminal. Replace the wires or reconnect them to the switch.

SYMPTOM: When you try to adjust the weight you get something that says
“ Release the tension on the cables and set to desired weight”
And the weight readout jumps to 10, 100 or some other number.

FIX: Check the PURPLE or BLACK wire that connects to a terminal that goes to the tension sensor located at the end of the pivot arm or left side looking from the back of the machine. Both of these wires have been known just to fall out of the terminal.
The best fix for this is just to by pass the terminal and splice a wire from the PURPLE wire to the GRAY/BLACK wire and then splice another wire from the BLACK wire to the BLACK wire leading to the resistance sensor.

The best fix that lasts, is to do what I did and what others are doing and disconect the wires from the terminals that are going to the bottom or left side of the pivot arm to the motor, high weight limit switch and the tension sensor, cut the ties that hold them to the pivot arm and pull them out of the pivot hinge encloser that usually cuts or crimps these wires. You will then need to splice wires back to these wires in order to make them longer so that they can then be routed to the outside of the pivot arm hinge and away from the moving parts. Connect the wires back to the wires for the high weight limit switch,motor and sensor then wrap them good with tape a tie them back to the pivot arm using cable ties leaving enough slack for them to move freely outside of the pivot arm hinge and away from the moving parts. I also recomend bypassing the terminal that connects to the resistance sensor and connecting the PURPLE and BLACK wires directly going to the sensor. Now the only 2 wires that are inside of the pivot arm hinge are the ones that go to the Light weight limit switch which can not be avoided because that is where the switch is located.
Hope this helps because the machine is very good if it is working correctly.
It just had poor engineering when it came to the wiring.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 10/20/2007 4:28:24 PM   
Guest
What does it mean when you plug it in and absolutely nothing happens, no electrical power. This occurred while adjusting resistance down, (no cables were pulled), screen just went blank and there is no power, are there fuses in this thing. If anyone knows about this please respond to this post.

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RE: Weider Crossbow Home Gym Review - 11/19/2007 3:40:04 PM   
Guest
Hey Guys and Gals,
I have tried many different systems such as: The Crossbow, Soloflex, Total Gym, but not the Bowflex. My wife and I prefer the Soloflex for the fact you can use free weights with this system. The Total Gym seems to be more of a Great Cardio workout, and the Crossbow is an ideal unit if you do not want to use free weights. The Bowflex has had many recalls on their equipment due to breakage at the top of the machine (Big Safety hazard). Soloflex has had no recalls and has sold thousands of machines.

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Weider Crossbow Home Gym - 12/18/2007 5:59:47 PM   
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FOR SALE - Weider Crossbow Home Gym Original Model with extra weight bars.
I recently joined a gym for motivation so want to sell this great piece of equipment.
It has always stored inside. Used very little after fiancee passed away.
It has a great smooth motion and a greater range of motion than weights. No spotters needed.
I live in San Ramon, CA. I believe $200 is a great buy. Paid $599.

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